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How Magnus Maximus’ Forgotten Son Contributed to the Arthurian Legends
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How Magnus Maximus’ Forgotten Son Contributed to the Arthurian Legends

  It has been convincingly argued by several scholars that the usurpation of Magnus Maximus in the 4th century was the origin of the legend of King Arthur conquering Europe. However, Maximus himself does not appear to be the “Arthur figure” who serves as the protagonist of this legend. Rather, it appears that it was Andragathius, a cavalry commander in his army. But aside from the Arthurian legend itself, is there any trace of him being remembered within Welsh tradition?   Who Was Andragathius? Map of the Western Roman Empire, most of which was conquered for Magnus Maximus through Andragathius’ campaigns. Source: Wikimedia Commons   Andragathius was the cavalry commander of Magnus Maximus’ army. Roman sources inform us that Maximus gave him “the general direction of the war.” A number of his actions appear to be identifiable as the actions of Arthur in the legend of King Arthur’s European conquests. One example is that Andragathius was the one who pursued and personally killed Gratian, the Roman ruler of Gaul. This is precisely what Arthur does in the legend, only the Roman ruler has a different name.   Coin depicting Magnus Maximus, minted in London, 4th century. Source: Gwalter   Andragathius lived in the second half of the 4th century, long before the traditional Arthurian era. He led Maximus’s army in 383 when Maximus began his usurpation. Later, he continued to lead the army in 387 when Maximus decided to attack Italy. In 388, he allegedly committed suicide after his army was defeated at the battle of Siscia. This appears to correspond to the bloody battle of Siesia in which Arthur’s army was “routed” according to Welsh tradition.   Traces in Welsh Tradition Illustration from the Llanbeblig Book of Hours, possibly depicting Magnus Maximus, 14th century. Source: National Library of Wales   If Andragathius and his conquests in Europe really did come to be remembered in Welsh tradition, we would expect to see evidence of this. It is well known that Magnus Maximus was fondly remembered by the Welsh, and various medieval sources refer to his usurpation. Without a doubt, it was an event that left an indelible mark on the memory of the Britons.   Regarding Andragathius himself, he does not appear to be mentioned anywhere in Welsh tradition by that name. However, this does not necessarily mean that he does not appear anywhere. Medieval Welsh records sometimes recorded historical figures with names that were actually epithets. For instance, one of the early Anglian kings of Bernicia is recorded in a Welsh poem with an epithet meaning “flame-bringer.” Another figure (from the same line of kings) appears in a Welsh poem as “Ulf.” It is thought that this is a shortening of King “Freothulf,” showing how figures were sometimes remembered by short forms of their names.   Magnus Maximus’ Legendary Son Harleian MS 3895, folio 193r, showing ‘Anthun map Maxim’ near the bottom right corner. Source: The British Library, London   Is there any figure associated with Maximus in medieval Welsh records who might be identifiable as the historical Andragathius? As it happens, one particular figure in an early genealogy is conspicuous. In the Harleian MS 3859, which preserves what appears to be a 10th-century genealogical list, Maximus is presented as having a son named “Anthun.”   The medieval Welsh records provide Maximus with several different sons, but this Anthun has by far the most similar name to “Andragathius.” There is evidence that “th” could sometimes be mistaken for a “d.” We see this, for instance, in the case of a female figure named Ardun, whose name is misspelled as Arthur in at least one record. This same example also shows that there was sometimes confusion between the letter “r” and the letter “n.” With these facts in mind, we can see that the name “Anthun” appears to be composed of the first part of the name “Andragathius.” This would be similar to the Welsh tradition that preserved only the final part of Freothulf’s name.   Anthun, King of Greece Jesus College MS 20, folio 33r, showing “annwn du vrenhin groec” [“Anthun the Black, king of Greece”] on the 5th and 6th lines. Source: Bodleian Library, Oxford   Of course, this is not necessarily to say that Andragathius actually was the son of Magnus Maximus. The Harleian MS 3859 is a record from centuries after the fact. The contemporary Roman records make no mention of Andragathius being his son, although admittedly this is not proof that he was not. Perhaps he was Maximus’ son by a non-Roman wife. In any case, the fact that he was closely associated with Maximus makes sense of the fact that he was recorded as his son in Welsh records.   As well as the plausible connection between the name “Anthun” and the start of “Andragathius” and both figures’ close association with Magnus Maximus, what other basis is there for equating the two? In a variety of other records, such as the Jesus College MS 20, Anthun appears at the head of several genealogical records. In these records, he is referred to as “king of Greece.” This is a fascinating record which helps us to come to some important conclusions.   Walls of Thessalonica, the administrative center of the Prefecture of Illyricum in the 380s. Source: Wikimedia Commons   Now, to be clear, there is no tradition whatsoever of Maximus himself coming from Greece or marrying a princess from Greece. Thus, the most logical explanation for Anthun being described as the king of Greece is that he was held to have conquered that land. This provides further reason to connect him to Andragathius.   It is true that Andragathius never did conquer quite as far as Greece. However, he did conquer a large portion of the Prefecture of Illyricum, whose administrative center was in Greece, even reaching as far as the Balkans. It is surely straining credibility to attribute Maximus’ son’s association with Greece to anything other than the historical usurpation of Maximus. And within that usurpation, Andragathius’ final stand at Siscia in Croatia is the furthest Maximus’ army ever got to Greece.   Based on this information, what can we conclude? It seems very likely that the figure recorded as Anthun son of Maximus, king of Greece, is a distorted and exaggerated memory of the historical Andragathius.   King Arthur’s Conquest of Greece Jesus College MS 20, folio 33v, showing the mistaken “Arthur” on the fourth line. Source: The Bodleian Library, Oxford   As we have already seen, it is very likely that the legend of King Arthur conquering a large portion of Europe comes from Andragathius’ conquests as preserved through Welsh tradition. The fact that Andragathius appears to have been remembered as “Anthun” apparently provides the explanation for how the account of this conquest was misapplied to Arthur. Recall the fact that Ardun, a female figure, was mistakenly recorded as “Arthur” in at least one record. If this could happen to her, then it could certainly have happened to Anthun, whose name is at least equally similar to “Arthur,” if not more so.   Further evidence that Andragathius—through the Welsh tradition as Anthun king of Greece—contributed to the legend of Arthur is seen from Culhwch and Olwen. This is a tale from around 1100, part of the Mabinogi collection. It is widely agreed to be independent of Geoffrey of Monmouth, who wrote the first Latin account of Arthur’s European conquests. This tale contains a very interesting statement.   An illustration from The Mabinogion, by Charlotte Guest, 1877. Source: Wikimedia Commons   Apparently describing the same European conquest that Geoffrey of Monmouth wrote about, the text of Culhwch and Olwen mentions in passing that Arthur had, at one time, conquered Greece. This is a very rare claim. The only other apparent reference to it is in the later Mabinogi tale, The Dream of Rhonabwy, where some men from Greece come to give Arthur tribute. Although obscure, this shows that a tradition existed in which Arthur conquered Greece.   Aside from Arthur, Anthun the son of Magnus Maximus is apparently the only figure in medieval Welsh records credited with a conquest of that region. This is surely significant.   Culhwch and Olwen explicitly associate this conquest with Arthur’s European campaign. As we have already seen, there is good reason to identify Maximus’ usurpation of the Western Roman Empire as the origin of this story. Therefore, Arthur’s legendary conquest of Greece would logically have something to do with this historical event too. This strongly supports the conclusion that the conquest of Greece, along with the European campaign as a whole, was taken directly from records about Anthun — that is, Andragathius.   How Andragathius Contributed to the Arthurian Legend Illustration of King Arthur from Royal MS 20 A II, 14th century. Source: The British Library, London   In summary, we can see that King Arthur’s legendary European campaign is believed to have come from the historical events involving Magnus Maximus. His cavalry commander, Andragathius, appears to be the specific “Arthur figure” identifiable in those events. Very likely, he can be identified as the figure recorded as Anthun son of Magnus Maximus in medieval Welsh tradition.   The name “Anthun” presumably comes from the beginning of Andragathius’ name, a corruption that is comparable to others which we see in medieval Welsh records. Anthun was recorded as the king of Greece in a number of documents. The reason for that is probably attributable to Andragathius’ conquests deep into the Prefecture of Illyricum, whose administrative center was in Greece.   Certain Welsh tales preserve, along with the European campaign in general, the fact that Arthur was believed to have conquered Greece. This otherwise inexplicable tradition must come from the more historically logical reference to Anthun son of Maximus as the king of Greece.
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Museum Turns Disaster Into Lesson After Bronze Age Artifact SHATTERED By 4-Year-Old Visitor
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Museum Turns Disaster Into Lesson After Bronze Age Artifact SHATTERED By 4-Year-Old Visitor

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A Prayer to Deepen Your Prayer Life This Fall - Your Daily Prayer - September 14
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A Prayer to Deepen Your Prayer Life This Fall - Your Daily Prayer - September 14

For Christians, fall, or harvest time, is a season of spiritually gathering up all that we’ve planted and watered. It's a time when we see how God has brought growth through our prayers.
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Trial of the Century Heads South 
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Trial of the Century Heads South 

Judge John Judge called it “the most difficult decision” of his career.  On Tuesday, in an upstate court in Idaho, the presiding judge over a case that has gripped the nation’s attention gave…
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Perry Farrell Punches Dave Navarro, Ending Jane's Addiction Show
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Perry Farrell Punches Dave Navarro, Ending Jane's Addiction Show

It took several crew members to get the still-punching singer off the stage. Continue reading…
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Trial of the Century Heads South 
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Trial of the Century Heads South 

Crime Trial of the Century Heads South  Bryan Kohberger nets a major victory in his quadruple murder case. Judge John Judge called it “the most difficult decision” of his career.  On Tuesday, in an upstate court in Idaho, the presiding judge over a case that has gripped the nation’s attention gave the defense what it had long sought: The trial against the accused murderer Bryan Kohberger will be moved, probably as far as five hours south to the suburbs of Boise.   “Considering the undisputed evidence presented by the defense, the extreme nature of the news coverage in this case, and the smaller population in Latah County, the defense has met the rather low standard of demonstrating ‘reasonable likelihood’ that prejudicial news coverage will compromise a fair trial in Latah County,” Latah County District Judge John Judge wrote in a brief. Kohberger, a 28-year-old former Washington State doctoral student, is accused of fatally stabbing four University of Idaho students in the early morning hours on November 13, 2022. Kohberger has silently but steadfastly denied he murdered students Ethan Chapin, Xana Kernodle, Madison Mogen, and Kaylee Goncalves in an off-campus rental home. The crime scene was particularly heinous. Reports of blood “oozing through the walls” filtered out from the sleepy college town as stunned local cops called the murders “the worst we’ve ever seen.” The venue change is a blow for state prosecutors who argued that families of the victims live in northwest Idaho and that the distance to Ada county, more than 300 miles south, could prohibit them from attending. Moving the venue of a trial is incredibly rare and requires a high burden of proof that the proceedings could be prejudiced.  Defense attorneys for Kohberger argued the jury pool would be tainted in an area as small as Moscow and one situated so close to the murders. A majority of residents polled in Latah County believe Kohberger is guilty of the crimes before the trial has begun. Defense attorneys also presented evidence that a portion of those surveyed threatened to “burn down the courthouse” if Kohberger was acquitted.  Speaking with CourtTV, criminal defense attorney Joseph Tully argued that this bias would likely lead to an immediate and potentially successful appeal if Kohberger is found guilty in Latah. “There really would’ve been a big chance for an appeal to win based on the idea that the trial was not fair,” said Tully. “I think the judge made the right call to move the case and preserve the sanctity of the jury’s verdict.” The family of Kaylee Goncalves expressed anger following Judge Judge’s decision. “We are incredibly disappointed in the Judge’s ruling granting the change of venue. The only good thing about this decision is it will be Judge Judge’s last decision in this case.” Kohberger faces an uphill battle regardless of where the trial takes place.  Dylan Mortensen, a surviving roommate who claims to have spotted the killer moving through the house, identified the intruder as an athletically-built man with bushy eyebrows. Kohberger fits that description to a tee. And video surveillance footage shows a mysterious white Hyundai Elantra, the same color and make of Kohberger’s sedan, outside the house around the time the murders occurred.  Moscow police’s lead investigator, Corporal Brett Payne, recalls feeling a “mounting sense of triumph” when Kohberger’s image flashed up on his screen during the investigation.  The prosecution of Kohberger will likely hinge on a modern form of DNA analysis known as investigative genetic genealogy, or IGG, that was used to initially identify Kohberger.  Investigators camped outside Kohberger’s Pennsylvania home in Albrightsville and collected trash samples that matched the DNA profile of Kohberger’s father to a single DNA stamp on a knife sheath found at the crime scene.  Kohberger’s defense has demanded to see the IGG evidence, although prosecutors claim it will not be presented at trial. Critics of IGG argue it violates Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure without probable cause.  When the younger Kohberger was arrested, police gathered a DNA sample from the former criminology student they claim is a “near-exact” match to that of the DNA found on the knife sheath.  Speaking with NewsNation following the announcement, the legal analyst Sara Azari said the venue change was a big deal, but won’t change much if prosecutors bring their A-game.  “The lack of bias in a jury could very well make a difference,” Azari said. “But on the other hand, or on the flip side, if the evidence is really overwhelming against Kohberger, it really doesn’t matter if the case is tried in Boise, Idaho or on Mars.” Kohberger’s trial is the latest in a string of high-profile cases to be tried in Idaho since the Covid years. Earlier this year, Idaho jurors found the “doomsday killers” Chad and Lori Daybell guilty of murdering Chad’s wife and Lori’s two children before fleeing to Hawaii where they were later captured.  The post Trial of the Century Heads South  appeared first on The American Conservative.
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Australian Thought Police Police State: Don't Try To Think For Yourself. WE Define What Reality IS
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Australian Thought Police Police State: Don't Try To Think For Yourself. WE Define What Reality IS

Australian Thought Police Police State: Don't Try To Think For Yourself. WE Define What Reality IS - (The Original Video Was Too Small to Upload on Bitchute. So I Decided to Make the Video Larger, and Illustrate Just How Ridiculous the Australian Government Really is. As Well As Their True Puppet Masters the UK Commie Globalist Tyrants) - AUSTRALIAN Assistant Treasurer Calling Those That Post or Host 'Misinformation' "CRIMINALS" - Assistant Treasurer Stephen Jones: - "HOW CAN ANYONE ARGUE AGAINST PERSECUTION OF CRIMINALS WHO PUBLISH MISINFORMATION ONLINE?" - CRIMINALS WHO PUBLISH MISINFORMATION ONLINE "SHOULD BE" PERSECUTED. BUT NOT FOR FREE SPEECH ONLINE, BUT FOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS KNOWINGLY PUSHING LIES WITH NEFARIOUS, TREASONOUS, CRIMINAL INTENT - ??????? ???: ??? Australian ????????? ????????? ??? ????????? ?? ???? ???? ??????? ????? ???????? ‘?????????????? & ??????????????’ ???? ?? ??? ?? ??????? ?? ???????: - “This is crackpot stuff… This is about Sovereignty… (And Australian Citizens Don't Have Sovereignty) - The Australian Government — like every other Democratic country in the world, asserts its right to make Australians safe. This is not about free speech…” - UTL COMMENT:- Calling us 'criminals' for posting the truth online and exercising our right to free speech? Mate - the REAL 'crackpot', 'misinformation propagandist' and 'criminal' is YOU & your fellow Corporatised 'Government'!! - FAIR USE FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES - Mirrored From: https://old.bitchute.com/channel/right_wing_nuclear_armed_aussie/
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Is Big Gov Worse Than the Mob?
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George Michael on the best live band he had ever seen: “It was chemistry”
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George Michael on the best live band he had ever seen: “It was chemistry”

Brilliant musicians at work. The post George Michael on the best live band he had ever seen: “It was chemistry” first appeared on Far Out Magazine.
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